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Post by helle is a SLYTHERIN <3 on Aug 23, 2011 20:27:52 GMT -5
www.facebook.com/onemillionmomsIt's this Christian group that - wait, let me see what one of the members says - "make media better for our children." Some of the members are completely batshit insane, but there seems to be at least one decent member, and Vondell Swain is trying to gently ask them to stop being such douchebags. Of course, the atheists going "LOL UR RELIGION SUX" aren't helping. But my disgust is aimed at both sides, honestly. First of all, disowning a kid for - get this - liking Glee. No, not being gay. Just liking a television show, because it has gay characters (apparently. I've never seen Glee as it's not really my thing with television). And ranting about commercials being SINFUL because OMG THIS GUY HAS A GIRL'S ASS IN HIS FACE. and "I'M NOT GOING TO TEACH MY KIDS ABOUT SEX BECAUSE SEX IS BAD." And then the "YOU ARE ALL HORRIBLE PEOPLE. YOUR RELIGION IS BULLSHIT. YOU'RE GOING TO END UP ROTTING IN THE GROUND LIKE EVERYONE ELSE." I mean, yeah, the women on that group are definitely not in the right, but you don't diss someone's religion like that. Fff honestly, I fucking hate how insensitive some atheists can be. There are some who I've met who are really very nice and open about the whole issue of religion, but a lot of them, especially through the internet, turn into massive douchebags once they find out someone has a religion. It's not that they don't have a religion - that's not my issue; I couldn't care less what other people do in their personal lives, as long as it doesn't affect me. My issue is that a lot of them get really douchey about religion and start making fun of it and then have the nerve to say that all Christians shove their beliefs down other people's throats. ALSO COMPLETELY UNRELATED but I hate when I'm listening to a song in a language I don't know, but I recognise like one or two words or phrases and then feel the need to pick the song apart and try to learn it. It's one thing with French, which I can somewhat understand, but with German and Japanese, I'm just like "Why do I do this to myself?"
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Post by Rainbow-Lord Crowmunculus on Aug 23, 2011 20:37:11 GMT -5
@pluto: WAT. someone apparently doesn't understand how gender works >
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amythista
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Post by amythista on Aug 23, 2011 21:40:03 GMT -5
Along the same lines as what helle is a SLYTHERIN <3 said, I hate telling people I'm an atheist. I'm proud to be an atheist. I really am. I've been an atheist all my life, but only recently have I realized it, and I've found it freeing. It's part of who I am, and I hate how much flack I get for it. I hate atheists who shove their lack of religion in other people's faces, because they make the rest of us decent people look bad. My best friend is the nicest, sweetest girl you could ever meet, and she's an atheist. Not all of us are like that. Last week when I told someone that I'm an atheist, the response I got was "Oh. I hate atheists." She's a nice girl and all, but what the fuck!? You don't say that to people! I hate how much flack we get even without that crap. So I have no morals, I can't believe in anything that isn't in front of my face, I'm cynical, I'm tainted, going to hell, I get it, all right? Will someone please get it through their head that when you try to "save" me, you're not doing anything but hurting yourself? I don't care that I'm young, I have the right to make my own goddamn decisions about my religion. One girl I went to theater with's response was "You shouldn't do that." You shouldn't do that?! Do what? Decide on what my beliefs are? This isn't a rant about Christians or Jews or any specific religion. I have friends of all religions, and none of them stick in down my throat, and I don't stick my lack of mine down theirs. But seriously, world? Even before I became an atheist, I've seen plenty of people trying to convert other people, no matter what religion. In fact, that was a minor reason I gave up on religion. And silly, niave me wanted nothing more than to not be judged by her choices, to make a decision where religion wouldn't be a deciding factor in her life. But you can't escape it, can you? There are times when I seriously don't want to live on this planet anymore. (This isn't an attack against you, xslytherclawx The idiot atheists who were doing that just reminded me.)
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taranova
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Post by taranova on Aug 28, 2011 21:27:41 GMT -5
I've done it. My best friend and I have been getting in pointless fights lately. Her fault. She got mad at me because my dad wouldn't be her chauffeur, in essence, and sent me a huge rant on facebook about how I never think of her feelings. Never think of her feelings, when she's constantly belittling me, excommunicating me, doing what SHE wants to do when SHE wants to do it. She has been poison to me. And I've hung on--desperate because I really love her as a friend, I really love HER, but she doesn't feel the same for me. I'm expendable. I'm nothing. She's been at college in Chicago for about a week now. Deleted me on facebook. Called me just now, asked me why I told her dad she was ignoring me, then hung up. So I've blocked her. I've deleted her as a friend on Gaia. I'm no longer watching her DeviantART. If she ever tries to make amends, I'm going to tell her to fuck off. We've been friends for SEVEN YEARS, and I'm always the one having to apologize for things I haven't even done to amend the relationship. I'm sick of playing doctor. I feel bad for saying this, but I hope she realizes one day what a self-centered bitch she's been all this time.
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Post by piedpiperpluto on Aug 29, 2011 20:35:28 GMT -5
^ *hugs tara*
@thread: Mom. Please stop trying to set me up with random people neither of us has ever talked to. I don't care that that lifeguard looks like a nice person, I've never met him before, I don't think he'd like it very much if I bugged him when he was working, and why are you so determined to get me to date, anyway?
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Post by helle is a SLYTHERIN <3 on Aug 29, 2011 20:43:17 GMT -5
Because it's your mother. I think she just wants you to display interest in a guy that isn't fictional. Tell her to focus her shipping sights on Al.
I hate that my mum keeps trying to set me up with my one guy friend. Clearly she doesn't grasp the idea of being JUST FRIENDS with a straight guy who is NOT William (even though, okay, William is bi, but my mother doesn't know that). Buuut I guess it's better than, y'know HUNTER, which was her thing for a while. :\
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Post by piedpiperpluto on Aug 29, 2011 21:10:45 GMT -5
^ One of the main problems is, I think she might stop if I tell her I'm asexual, but... she wants me to get married and have kids. Neither of which I think is going to happen.
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Post by helle is a SLYTHERIN <3 on Aug 29, 2011 21:39:17 GMT -5
Find an asexual guy, marry him, and adopt? I mean, you're one person who I can never ever ever picture going through the whole pregnancy and childbirth thing (or conception for that matter), but adopting a kid would benefit everyone involved.
Except me, but that's just because of my irrational fear of children.
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Post by piedpiperpluto on Aug 29, 2011 22:06:42 GMT -5
Find an asexual guy, marry him, and adopt? I mean, you're one person who I can never ever ever picture going through the whole pregnancy and childbirth thing (or conception for that matter), but adopting a kid would benefit everyone involved. Except me, but that's just because of my irrational fear of children. That's what I've been thinking, but my mom wants biological grandkids for some unfathomable reason.
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taranova
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Post by taranova on Aug 29, 2011 22:09:48 GMT -5
My grandma keeps trying to set me up with guys, too. And I'm a lesbian.
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Post by helle is a SLYTHERIN <3 on Aug 30, 2011 8:05:35 GMT -5
...What. What is it with older female relatives trying to set people up? And it's not even just adults; my sister does it, too, and she's twenty-three. one reason why she has never met any of my male friends.Find an asexual guy, marry him, and adopt? I mean, you're one person who I can never ever ever picture going through the whole pregnancy and childbirth thing (or conception for that matter), but adopting a kid would benefit everyone involved. Except me, but that's just because of my irrational fear of children. That's what I've been thinking, but my mom wants biological grandkids for some unfathomable reason. Tell her that it's absolutely selfish and narcissistic to actually try to have your own kid when there are so many who need loving families. Besides, if you did have biological kids, I imagine you'd use a surrogate? That's what I'd have to doWhich is the singularly most selfish thing I've ever heard of.
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Post by Artemis Day on Aug 30, 2011 13:48:05 GMT -5
^Thank you for bringing up something that I personally despise!
Why is it that everyone has this vendetta against having your own children? I'm seeing this everywhere lately, people going on about how horrible people who have there own children are and blah blah blah.
So what? I'm a horrible person because I don't want to adopt and want to have my own children someday? What the Hell?
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Post by helle is a SLYTHERIN <3 on Aug 30, 2011 14:22:13 GMT -5
^Thank you for bringing up something that I personally despise! Why is it that everyone has this vendetta against having your own children? I'm seeing this everywhere lately, people going on about how horrible people who have there own children are and blah blah blah. So what? I'm a horrible person because I don't want to adopt and want to have my own children someday? What the Hell? I was more referring to those who use surrogates. Personally, I greatly dislike children and never want to have or adopt any, but if I wanted to have children, I wouldn't be able to get pregnant no matter what. So I'd have to use a surrogate (which I could do), which I think is ridiculous. First of all, it's crazy expensive, there's no guarantee it'll work, and if you can't have a kid, why not adopt a kid who's living in a foster home somewhere? It just makes more sense to me, logically, that if you are incapable of having kids for some reason, to adopt rather than try for a surrogacy.
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Post by Artemis Day on Aug 30, 2011 14:36:10 GMT -5
^Thank you for bringing up something that I personally despise! Why is it that everyone has this vendetta against having your own children? I'm seeing this everywhere lately, people going on about how horrible people who have there own children are and blah blah blah. So what? I'm a horrible person because I don't want to adopt and want to have my own children someday? What the Hell? I was more referring to those who use surrogates. Personally, I greatly dislike children and never want to have or adopt any, but if I wanted to have children, I wouldn't be able to get pregnant no matter what. So I'd have to use a surrogate (which I could do), which I think is ridiculous. First of all, it's crazy expensive, there's no guarantee it'll work, and if you can't have a kid, why not adopt a kid who's living in a foster home somewhere? It just makes more sense to me, logically, that if you are incapable of having kids for some reason, to adopt rather than try for a surrogacy. I wasn't talking about what you said specifically. I just meant that you reminded me of what OTHER people have been saying and how it pisses me off.
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Post by bespecledcow on Sept 3, 2011 3:18:25 GMT -5
So. Some of you may or may not remember me posting about my cousin before. If you have, skip over the background details I'm about to give.
So my cousin (let's call her L) is in her late twenties. I have fond memories of watching LOTR with her and the like, but in her final years of High School she started down the road of crazy.
She started going out with a guy that claimed he was the hand of God or something, and could materialize things out of thin air. L believed this. Oh, and when my father couldn't see the car he 'made' it was because my dad wasn't 'open' enough. -_- So she runs off to Hawaii with this guy and has his baby (We'll call her Lani) on the beach. Without a midwife. They live in the woods. No house. No meat. Bathing in the stream and drinking from the stream, eating food in the wild when god knows she's never really studied plants and could've eaten POISON. Eventually she realized the guy was nuts and left him; only for him to chase after her naked with a sword. Eventually he leaves the island, and she hooks up with another guy (S) and proceeds to have *his* baby. She also has this baby on the beach (we'll call her N) alone. They continue to live for a while just in nature. No school for the children. After a while she decides to live in a house, and things are a little better. However, things with S go downhill as it turns out he likes to smack L around. So, she leaves him and takes the girls, and moves to Colorado. There, she meets her current guy, J. He's the nicest so far, but he's still doing harm because he and L fight all the time in front of the girls.
So, to fast forward a bit, a few months ago, they came and lived with us. I've met L's children before, and always loved them. They are adorable, sweet, and hyper.
Lani is nearly eight years old, and she cannot read. She attended school briefly while here (a Montessori school) but that lasted only a few months. She looks like a skeleton. She is tall and naturally thin, but she looks emaciated. She hardly has an appetite, has back problems, and I think might have some form of autism, but its hard to tell because she's hardly interacted with anyone her age. She always has a cough, and I think may also have an eye problem because she seems to squint a lot.
N is nearly five, and also does not have any basic concept of reading or writing. She looks much healthier than Lani, probably because she didn't spend most of her life living off the land. She is like a lot of little girls and likes pink, and playing princess. She also likes legos and hiking.
Before I get into the really awful shit, lets start with this.
L cannot handle her youngest daughter liking princesses. She thinks it is 'bad' for a four year old to like princesses. Neither is allowed to watch a disney movie, because all the disney females are bad role models and disney is an evil evil corporation and the movies will teach them bad things. Look, Disney isn't a saint, and the movies aren't all amazing, but we're not talking about the animated Titanic movie here. Oh yeah, and she includes Pixar movies in that too. Apparently they are too scary as well. Look, who cares if N likes princesses? SHE IS FOUR YEARS OLD. There's nothing WRONG with it. She wants to be a princess because she would get to wear pretty things and travel and go on adventures (according to N). So what if she STAYS liking that sort of thing? So what if she is a girly girl? SHE IS YOUR DAUGHTER AND BEING GIRLY DOES NOT MAKE HER A BAD PERSON.
L will also never tell her children that she is proud of them, because she wants them to be proud of themselves. These wonderful girls that I love will not be able to handle the real world. Any sign of trouble ("They were fighting in school!" D:) and they will not know what to do. L is making them unable to see the good AND the bad and learn to fucking live with it. I know they're little, but if they don't start learning about good and bad things it will be a lot harder when they are older. And on top of that she's teaching them an odd hippie ideal that man is bad and pollutes the planet and look how stupid and evil we are to start wars, without giving them any idea of what those wars were fought for! Granted, they won't understand a lot of it, but they REALLY won't if you never explain it. Add in the fact that she stays with a guy she is always yelling at, to the point where the girls are terrified whenever someone raises their voice and things are already messed up.
It gets worse.
So, with her eldest daughter seeming sick all the time, what does L do? She doesn't take her to a doctor. In fact, neither girl has EVER had a blood test, gotten vaccines, or anything like that. They've never had an eye test or been to the fucking dentist. My cousin, who believes among many things that half our politicians are actually aliens in disguise and that vaccines will put us under their control, takes her to a kinesiologist. And not even a real one either. For those who don't know, kinesiology is the study of movement. One of my old bosses studied to be one, and she said it had a lot to do with physical therapy. Okay, that's fine. But this woman was apparently a 'spiritual' kinesiologist. So, what did this entail?
My cousin L sat in a chair, with Lani in her lap. L held out her arm, while Lani sniffed at a vial of 'corn essence' or something. The "doc" would then push down on L's arm. If the arm moved easily, it meant the corn was good for Lani's system. If it moved with difficulty, it meant it was bad for her and she shouldn't eat it in any form.
So, the emaciated-looking little girl who probably has a stomach worm of some kind is informed that because of how her mother's arm moved, she is allergic to corn.
Oh, and when this little girl was telling us this story, guess what she said? "I don't think she was a real doctor." Ladies and gentlemen, she is using her brain, unlike her mother.
L will not listen. I hate what she is doing to her kids. What if one of them gets cancer or a virus or a bug of some sort crawls in one of them when they are in a stream and one of them fucking DIES because she won't take them to a fucking doctor because all doctors care about is making money and that belief is worth risking your child's LIFE?
I just don't know what I can do anymore. L doesn't trust us. Thinks we are the crazy ones. If I call child services, she would run and then we might never see N or Lani again. And she won't listen to us. No matter how we try, no matter if its me, my father, or her father. She thinks we are blind. Fine. I don't give a fuck what damage she does to herself but I can't just SIT here and let her risk N and Lani! But I just don't know what to do. I just don't.
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